that's why i thought it was so curious when tim cook was in michelle obama's box in the state of the union. it felt like something was up with respect to either some sort of money grab and him sort of saying it's okay. it's just absolutely amazing. there's a fortune sitting over there. there's no way in the world we couldn't get at least 400 billion dollars of that back, tax it at 5%. let it come here and create jobs at no expense to anybody watching the show. liz: even other ceos say yes to that, have a good business environment here to bring that money back on shore here in the u.s. you are going to have what, government paying for green chutes in the economy, that's very expensive to do that. stuart: john chambers i was critical of him because i thought that he was more towards the left. but now he's saying come on, you've got to get that corporate tax rate down and i will bring the money back. charles: this is bottom line -- i mean if president obama wants a manufacturing renaissance, i'm very confused. he expects the company to pay all this money in other places and then pay ano